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Message No. 1000

Message:
On the Jolly Rogers web page it lists the plane Czechem as being a B-24D-5-CO serial number 42-40352. Which is the same number you stated and is saying its un nammed.

Which one is it? Trying to research this considering im related to the pilot.

Message No. 1000 ▷ Parent Message No. 1000 ▷ Grandparent Message No. 931

Responses:

Chovanec — Bob Tupa, Wed Mar 4 16:22

First, the plane Czechem was not the plane that the Chovenec crew went down in. They went down in 42-40352 which was unnamed. Wiley Woods in his book has along with Chovenec and Hansen: 2nd lt Eugene ... more
- Re: Chovanec — Matt, Mon Jan 31 01:28
- Lt. Chovanec & Crew — Brian Lindner, Thu Mar 5 05:57
  
  Great info! Thanks. Since only Hansen, Nix, and Ratliff are listed on the ABMC website - all showing as buried in Manila - I assume that all other remains were recovered and returned for stateside... more
- - Re: Lt. Chovanec & Crew — Matt, Mon Jan 31 01:30
    
    Chovance is burried here in Texas, I would have to get the name of the cemetary though to get the specific but I know hes burried in state.
  - - Chovanec Cemetery Info — Ted Heinsohn, Jr. , Mon Feb 21 17:01
      
      Chovanec is buried in St. John's Catholic Cemetery in Fayetteville, Texas
    - Chovanec — Bob Tupa, Tue Feb 1 23:03
      
      Matt if you would check the box next to your email address when you post your email address would show and someone could send you something. I have his death certificate if you are interested and... more
    - - Re: Chovanec — Matt, Wed Feb 2 02:59
        
        I am interested for sure. Anything that pertains to Chovanec or the crashed bomber. I do know I just found out that the Jolly Roger`s website is wrong, they list the un named bomber that they crashed ... more
      - Chovanec — Kenneth Sheats, Thu Feb 3 09:28
        
        There is a memorial for him on findagrave http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=chovanec&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=33895467&df=all &
  - Chovanec — Kenneth Sheats, Sun Jul 19 11:12
    
    Thought you may be interested in this. The info came from his death certificate The web site is findagrave... more
  - Hansen — Bob Tupa, Thu Mar 5 08:03
    
    Brian Henry Hansen was part of the crew. In your original message you said that you had confirmed him so I did not repeat him. The reason that they are not listed as MIA is that 5th AF sent a mission ... more
  - - Lt. Chovanec & Crew — Brian Lindner, Thu Mar 5 08:11
      
      Thanks for clarifying about Lt. Hansen. Have you seen the book about the expedition going to the crash site? I read the book and got curious about the full story. It was very unclear about the... more
    - - Book — Bob Tupa, Thu Mar 5 08:34
        
        I was always suspect about the book. I know for a fact that he did not correctly identify those that were on the recovery mission. It did identify several pictures that I have as being from the... more
      - Lt. Chovanec & Crew — Brian Lindner, Thu Mar 5 08:51
        
        The ending of the book was certainly less than stellar. If you have the IDPF on Chovenec then I'll order ones on two different crewmen.
        Lt. Chovanec & Crew — Brian Lindner, Thu Jul 2 15:36
        
        Update- The Army has been unable to locate the IDPF on Ratliff. They did find the one on Coggin. It shows that he was buried on site on the day after the crash. It does not say who buried him but... more
        Chovenac — Anonymous, Fri Mar 6 11:22
        
        Brian As a side note, Henry C. Simons was originally a crew member (gunner) with my father's crew of the Crosby's Curse. I sent a picture to Bob of the group that was investigating the crash site and ... more
        Lt. Chovenac — Brian Lindner, Fri Mar 6 11:51
        
        It sounds like head hunters were still a problem when the team first went to investigate the wreckage. One member of the team was killed.

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